We have all heard the old saying, “Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” This year we are being force fed by most media that we are witnessing history in the making and that if there is any repeating of history at work here, it is to be the 1980 Reagan Revolution that we are watching in modern times and geared towards Progressive thought. An awakening of sorts to the supposed failures of the fore mentioned 1980’s scenario.
Of course that can only be seen in hindsight and we are nowhere near the point of judging the current presidency let alone the last one. Some of you may be gasping at that statement but look back at the last really hated Republican to leave office, Richard Nixon. For decades Nixon was held over the heads of GOP runners as the poster child of what not be, whom not to sound like and whom not to resemble in any way shape or form. Yet today through the lenses of history Nixon’s presidency is seen for what it was a great success internationally and even here at home. I mean you have to remember this is the man who ended Vietnam. The most hated war America has ever engaged in, at least until recent events.
But history can offer us a way to focus on things that are likely to come in the future, although there can be no guarantees. Take Jimmy Carter for example. Two terms in the House and a full term as Governor of an average size state. Most indications were that he would be an average to better than average president, plus, he didn’t have any of the Nixon stink on him like Ford did.
Ronald Reagan, former two term Governor of a state that if broken away from the US would yield between the 7th and 10th largest economy in the world and about the 4th largest military on earth (during the 80’s when more bases were still open). But he was an actor so many thought we would get little in the way of real change but instead be fed a lot of lip service. They were certainly off on that one.
Bill Clinton, on his fourth term as Governor of a poor state went on to actually do very little damage to this country save for making us look weak around the world, allowing for major deregulation of the banking industry and the occasional Oval Office perversion, other than that he did a great job.
Today we are faced with the very real possibility (and that’s all it is, a possibility) that Obama a 2 month Senator (cuz that’s when he started running for prez) with a long background as a community organizer (funny) who has not written a single piece of legislation providing for any hope or change, but who did find time however to write two books about himself, is seriously being considered by some voters as “The One” to move this country forward? (Long sentence I know, thanks for hanging in there with me)
Let’s look at this situation through history and see if we can try to put a bead on which former presidency Mr. Obama’s orgasmically dreamed of election would hold for his supporters.
His supporters want you to think Reagan-like Revolution, leading to 30 plus years of Democratic control of capital hill with and Democrats taking the White House in 3 of four elections to follow. A planetary change in how America is perceived around the world and a reawakening of America as the leader of the free world and a financial giant who can not be ignored. These were indeed the outcomes of Reagan’s Presidency but Obama is no Ronald Reagan. When Reagan spoke he told us a new dawn, a shinning city on a hill and of the good and strength of the American people. Obama tells us of how bad we have it now and the only government can solve our problems, problems by the way that most of us are not experiencing at the moment.
Another look at the cycle leads one to see Obama not as the next Reagan or a Democrat version of him, instead it points to him winning by default due to people’s dislike for the current party in office. Let’s look at another time this happened and how it all panned out.
Reagan ran for election during this very same cycle, but unfortunately for him, his day was not yet at hand. The year was not 1980, but 1976. A republican was in office that had done an ok job but was stained by the one act only he could perform; the pardoning of Richard Milhouse Nixon, perhaps the most hated politician in American history to date. Gerald Ford was tainted having been Nixon’s VP and was essentially thrown out with the bath water. What replaced him was a seasoned politician with a long background of service to this nation as representative, a governor and Navy submariner. He was even a small business owner growing peanuts. A fine enough resume for any President past or present.
Once in office he too had a dream of government taking the lead in providing for the people. He gave us a Secretary of Education to ensure that education remains a top priority in this country and a Secretary of Energy. (Side Bar- has anyone mentioned lately how great the education system in this country is or how low priced energy is and how thankful we are that we have abundant supplies here at home. Good thing these two seats were added to the table, they proved to be complete wastes of time and money judging from the results. Education has slid into the toilet and all the Department of Energy has managed to do is make it hard for energy to be developed at home) Anyway, he also had little back bone and our enemies knew it. Iran took hostages 444 days prior to the end of his term as president and Carter’s reaction was to throw broken helicopters at them, having gutted the military. And less we forget the dangers of acid rain, the environmental movement in this country got a major foot hold under this fine upstanding man. He thought is a good idea to make the arrangements to turn over control of the Panama Canal, a vital lifeline for commerce for the United States over to the Panama, who in turn hired the Chinese to run things for them essentially putting China in a position of power over a portion of our commerce world wide. And then there was the massive growth in personal wealth America enjoyed under his leadership. Oh wait, that’s not right, is it? Sorry, had to fact check this one real quick. 22% interest rates, 8% unemployment, incredible inflationary pressures, high gas prices because of an oil embargo and…..it goes on and on and on. Pick it and you will see the Carter administration’s finger prints on it.
And don’t forget this guy had a solid resume. I mean it! Obama does not have such a resume.
Now forward to 2008. We have a hated President in office, we are in two regional wars, (don’t forget, the left turned on Nixon even after he ended the war in Vietnam, they wasted no time throwing him under the bus even when he gave them what they wanted) there is a generalized belief by many that change is what is needed, as in 1976, and so long as it looks different, acts different and sounds different, it must be good. Well Carter was an agent of change and he changed us a bunch.
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeats it. We are repeating it folks, and the good news is that IF Obama pulls a win out over McCain, which I still don’t think is a lock especially considering Obama’s internals that tell him 10% of his numbers are bulls***, but IF Obama wins this thing, we most likely have only one term to live through before the return of sanity. The real question for those of us in Conservative Movement is more direct and pressing… Who’s the next Reagan? Romney had a failed run this year as Reagan did in ’76? So did Huckabee. Do we have a plan if we get another Carter? Think about it folks. It matters.
But what would I know; I’m jut an Average American.
Those who do not learn from history...
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Posted By: Average American Posted on: Nov. 2, 2008 at 9:28 AM |
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Nov. 2, 2008 at 11:13:01 AM
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| Average. Welcome back. I thought you were sitting this one out, but then figured that you are probably still extremely busy being a good little Republican, making your fortune off of other peoples misfortune. Now to your article. You may be able to piss down Bob Toads back and convince him it is raining, but most of the rest of us aren't that easily fooled. Let's start with the Energy Facts. Jimmy Carter gave what was known as the "Malaise speech" but if you read it, it was a great speech with fantastic solutions, that if implemented as his outline, would have the USA in a much better place today. A study done in 1980 showed that alternative energy could make up 20% of US energy needs by the year 2000. The study was killed by Reagan's Energy Secretary Jim Edwards. Then, Reagan cut the solar institutes's budget from $124 million in 1980 to $54 million in 1982. Researchers left, solar credits dried up and with it, solar innovation. Reagan and his conservative backers laughed at the 'environmental whackjobs' and for good measure Reagan removed the solar panels from the White House. And let us not forget that it was Reagan that cut and run after the Beirut barracks bombing that led terrorists to believe that they could act with impunity. There was no retaliation for that bombing. And let us not forget that 96 people were kidnapped in Lebanon, mostly Westerners including 25 Americans in the years between 1982 and 1992. And Ford, by most accounts, lost the election not because of the Nixon pardon, but because during a Carter/Ford debate insisted that Poland and Romania were not under Soviet domination, even when given a second chance to clarify his remarks. And hey, you can make fun of community organizers. Tell it to Jesus when you see him. I think he won't think that his life's work on earth was "funny." Perhaps you don't regard Obama-Lugar Non proliferation legislation as providing any "hope or change" but Richard Lugar did: "The United States should do more to eliminate conventional weapons stockpiles and assist other nations in detecting and interdicting weapons of mass destruction. We believe that these functions are underfunded, fragmented and in need of high-level support," said Lugar, Republican leader of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. See, I believe that reducing weapons that kill our soldiers and citizens is a great idea. But that is probably just the liberal part of me showing itself. Why was there an oil embargo? Well, OPEC decided that the US, (among others) needed to be punished for supporting Israel during the Yom Kipper War. Syria and Egypt attacked Israel and it went downhill for there. Carter later orchestrated a peace agreement between Israel and Egypt that reduced the possibility of that kind of thing happening again. I guess he kinda proved that talking with one's enemies can work! History doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes. We see what happens when so-called conservatives run our government. Huge deficits, huge debt and lots of wars. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer and inevitably, some scandal regarding banking/financial instruments is a given. Sorry AA. Your case falls flat on its face. |
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Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:07:19 PM
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| Normal 0 false false false MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 st1:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} “we most likely have only one term to live through before the return of sanity” So the definition of sanity is now : 1. Continue to allow Open Borders after 9/11? 2. Lose 2 Trillion Dollars of American’s retirement plans? 3. Give 1 Trillion Dollars of taxpayer money to Wall Street CEO’s ? 4. Fail to oversee Financial Companies causing the collapse in U.S. Real Estate Values? 5. Pay 1 Trillion Dollars in Iraq to get one guy we didn’t care about out of a hole…while the one we did care about stays in a cave? 6. Take our government to the Brink of economic collapse? Not to mention having the world watch as our government watched one of our own cities drown for a week on worldwide television, etc/. etc/. etc/. Come on AA….maybe if you just left the Kool-Aid alone for a day, the fog would begin to clear…..your comparatives are so slanted and narrow that if you fell on a pin you’d be blind in both eyes……this whole Stepford Wives approach to Conservatism….you gotta get past it! |
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Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:20:33 PM
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| So 444 days means nothing, we have discussed Beruit before but Reagan learned from that mistake when he hit Quadaffi hard killing his kids at home. As for my comparatives, they are similar to yours I guess. Wall street fell because of Democrats running Fannie and Freddie started allowing those loans in the first place. Your bastardized desire to help didn't allow for the non-ability to pay back loans. But you were all to happy to go get one weren't you. And as for me making my money off other hardship... Eat s*** you jealous bitch. Too afraid to go after it yourself. Find a man, get laid and shut up. This is why women shouldn't vote. Your leaders bottom up idea is horse s***. Hoe many jobs have you ever gotten from a poor person. As for milking the rich, how dare you ask me to pay higher taxes. I'm nothing special, yet I have money, lots of it, and it pisses you off. I busted my ass for what I have and the more and more i make, the more I know who made it, me. Mine will be off shore long before Obamadips***dumbass gets into office and gets a penny of it to give to another lazy f*** like you. Ya, I'm pissed, not because of what you have written, but because you proved beyond a doubt just how f***ed up our education system is. Your like a new car buyer, pulled in by that new car smell. You are buying a Yugo dips***. It's still a Yugo a year later only you are dead because you hit a small kitten and it managed to total your car. Obama is a Yugo, poorly designed, dimly lit and Socialistic which flies in the face of everything this country was built on, and you f***s can't get enough of it fast enough. |
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Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:26:55 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by ddenver on Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:07:19 PM]
ddenver
Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:07:19 PM Normal 0 false false false } /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable Normal"; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; “we most... View this Comment And you wouldn't understand what we were fighting for because you have forgotten what happened on 9/11, forgotten what your eyes opened you to, to the death and destruction, the complete lack of respect for human life, the suffering of those who lost others. Your ivory towers make me sick. Yes, I've got a ton of money, more than most of you will earn in a lifetime, but I believe in the people, not Uncle Sam to fix this mess the Liberals have engineered for decades by their politically correct bulls*** and deep understanding of others problems. Here's what I understand about others problems, they are theirs, not mine. Nobody helped me fix my mess years ago except me, and I ain't nothing special. And if I can do it, why the hell can't you? Get off your ass if you are unhappy and fix your life scab. I am amazed how you can win life's lottery by being born in this country then bitch because you have not been given enough by others. We have a promise of opportunity not a promise of outcome. You want it go get it, but don't try to take it from others. Sick f***s! |
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Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:43:18 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by Average American on Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:20:33 PM]
Average American
Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:20:33 PM So 444 days means nothing, we have discussed Beruit before but Reagan learned from that mistake when he hit Quadaffi hard killing his kids at home. As for my comparatives, they are similar to yours I guess. Wall street fell because of Democrats running... View this Comment My my AA. Did I hit a nerve? What has you so angry? Because your know that the ideology that you have staked your life on is a complete and utter failure? And women shouldn't vote? hummm. Please describe how that works with Sarah Palin as McCain's VP pick. |
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Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:46:17 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by Average American on Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:20:33 PM]
Average American
Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:20:33 PM So 444 days means nothing, we have discussed Beruit before but Reagan learned from that mistake when he hit Quadaffi hard killing his kids at home. As for my comparatives, they are similar to yours I guess. Wall street fell because of Democrats running... View this Comment AA…….please……don’t bust your bubble……can’t we disagree without you losing control? I think that waiting for rich people to give you jobs has made you a bit of a cynic…….as for paying higher taxes……who did you think would pay for this maxed out credit card…Sarah and John? If you have so much money….I am glad to hear that the American Dream has gone well for you… but don’t expect to keep it all…….unless you keep it in your mattress……..if it is offshore you are headed…watch out……..the dominos seem to be falling everywhere… I gotta say, I admire your compassion for those with less than you and your ability to see so clearly the light at the end of your tunnel vision. |
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Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:55:51 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by Average American on Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:26:55 PM]
Average American
Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:26:55 PM And you wouldn't understand what we were fighting for because you have forgotten what happened on 9/11, forgotten what your eyes opened you to, to the death and destruction, the complete lack of respect for human life, the suffering of those... View this Comment Bravo AAAfter 911 nearly every American wanted Bush to "go get em" Then when it took longer than an episode of American Idol so the spineless pigs needed to start pointing blame.The same spineless democrats accepted contributions and sweetheart deals from those who were screwing the very people these liberal swine claim to want to help. Where are the investigations Mr Waxman?So now were supposed to believe Obama will be the savior. A man whos has shown poor judgement in nearly every relationship he has had over the last twenty years. A man who like Jimmy Carter thinks Americas best days have past.Hope & Change......nothing more than an empty slogan for empty minded progressives. |
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Nov. 2, 2008 at 01:03:06 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by postman on Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:55:51 PM]
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Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:55:51 PM Bravo AA After 911 nearly every American wanted Bush to "go get em" Then when it took longer than an episode of American Idol so the spineless pigs needed to start pointing blame. The same accepted contributions and sweetheart... View this Comment After 911 nearly every American wanted Bush to "go get em" Then when it took longer than an episode of American Idol so the spineless pigs needed to start pointing blame.Well, Postman, we still haven't gotten them. Bin Laden, al-zawahiri and Mullah Omar are free and plotting their next move. The Taliban is resurgent in Afghanistan. So where is the majority of the American Army? Iraq. Please tell me what Iraq had to do with 9-11. |
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Nov. 2, 2008 at 01:09:03 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by ddenver on Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:46:17 PM]
ddenver
Nov. 2, 2008 at 12:46:17 PM bust your we disagree without you losing control? I think that waiting for rich people to give you jobs has made you a bit of a cynic…….as for paying higher taxes……who did you think would pay for this maxed out credit... View this Comment …and AA…….for the record…….I will be significantly impacted by the increase proposed by the Obama plan…perhaps even more than you…….yes and will pay more taxes than I do now and of course more than I would like to……but I will not regret it or resent it…….I will pay because it is my responsibility as an American not to leave the mess for the next generation……because greed is it’s own just reward in the end and I don’t look forward to that kind of justice…….because I can do the right things now and not have to hope for some kind of absolution at my final act of contrition………and I only hope that other Americans (regardless of party affiliation)…..will do what is good for the country and not just what is good for their pocketbook……. |
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