Fear mongering will no longer win elections

All's I'm saying is that each of us has to decide to stand up individually and decide that we are not going to be afraid of the Goerings and Rushes of the world anymore. There is hope, but there is no bottom to hit, because it is endless. Fear is due to igorance and stupidity, and as Einstien said, "There are two things that are infinite, the Universe, and human stupidity... and I'm still not sure about the universe."

typical NeoCON panty wetting response, hypocrite.

Rabid Islam is an issue.

Rate it on a scale from 100 being catastrophic to Americans to 0 having no effect....

Put aside your bumpersticker 'christian' fear mongering of the Abrahamic God and put this issue in context....

What were the odds that Rabid Islam would have killed your parents, and will kill you?
What are the odds that 'RABID' Islam could DESTROY America?
I mean the Constitutional America, not the panty wetting Fascist state that NeoCONs want it to be....

Islam terrorist killed how many people in America last year?  The year before? Ten years before? 100 years before?

Islam, rabid or not will not destroy America.

RABID debt will

Suspension of Constitutional Rights will

The government spying on its people will.

Urinary Presidents will....

hypocrite, if I hadnt read your previous post, I would say you have irrational fear, but because I have, I understand that you are just spredding EVIL, as an EVIL person...

IF YOU REALLY WERE CONCERNED about RABIT Islam, you would be working to fix the CAUSES rather than the after effects.....

The War on Terror Explained in Plain English

8/11/2006 6:01:24 PM
By Carmen Yarrusso

Basic nature

To understand the war on terror, it helps to compare it to the war on drugs. Both “wars” use the same basic scam: implement government policies GUARANTEED to create a problem and then charge gullible taxpayers billions to fight a “war” against the problem (which of course can’t possibly succeed because the problem is perpetually sustained by the government policies).

As long as US government prohibition policies guarantee massive drug profits to millions around the world, the war on drugs will remain an expensive, endless exercise in futility. Similarly, as long as US government foreign policies guarantee massive suffering to millions of Muslims around the world (who have little economic, military or political power) the war on terror will remain an expensive, endless exercise in futility.

Any success eliminating individual terrorists (or drug dealers) merely creates job openings for a long line of eager applicants. If the incentive remains, replacements will line up. In fact, eliminating individual terrorists (or drug dealers) is worse than ineffective. Like natural selection, it tends to weed out the weaker, less ruthless, less efficient in favor of stronger, more ruthless, more efficient replacements.

Sustained by big lies

Aside from politically weak scapegoat “enemies”, both “war” scams require a servile media to spread the lies that fool the gullible masses. The inherently futile war on terror is no more a war against terror than the inherently futile war on drugs is a war against drugs. In fact, both wars absolutely guarantee MORE of what each purports to fight. The real enemies in both wars are living breathing human beings who have been unjustly demonized and marginalized and thus have very little political power to fight back.

Big lies and a servile media are needed to convince the masses that certain people are “criminals” (to be jailed like rapists and murderers) if they claim sovereignty over their own bodies and use drugs less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco. Similarly, big lies and a servile media are needed to convince the masses that certain people are inherently “evil” and resort to acts of terror because they hate our freedoms or hate our lifestyles--even though they’ve made it perfectly clear (in public statements) it’s US government foreign policies they hate.

Big lies and a servile media are needed to hide the fact that the US government continues its long history of supporting ruthless regimes that oppress millions of politically weak Muslims. Big lies and a servile media are needed to convince the masses that cutting off the heads of innocents with knives and NOT hiding the horror from the public is called “terrorism”, but cutting off the heads of innocents with smart bombs and HIDING the horror from the public is called “spreading democracy”.

Stopping terrorism

The only way to stop terrorism is to expose the “war on terror” as another very dangerous US government “war” scam. The servile mainstream media must be exposed as complicit in this scam and bypassed to get the truth out to the people:

1. Terrorism is a political tactic of desperate people, not an “evil” ideology.

2. The root cause of present day terrorism is US government foreign policies that sustain the violent occupation of Muslim land and the cruel oppression of millions of marginalized Muslims.

3. Stopping terrorism is futile until these unjust US government policies are stopped.

4. Israel is the crux of the problem. US billions and US weapons permit Israel to continue to expand its occupation of Palestinian land and to continue its violent oppression of politically powerless Palestinians.

5. The illegal US invasion of Iraq greatly exacerbates the problem by blatantly validating terrorists’ claims of oppression and violent occupation of Muslim land. This bloody US occupation virtually guarantees Americans and their allies will be targets of violence.

The war on terror escalates violence against people who are already violently protesting the violence against them. This can only further validate and further solidify their cause. Violence breeds violence.

Terrorism is the product of injustice and can only be stopped by stopping the injustice.

AA...

The thing that never seems to be mentioned by the fearmongers and Islam haters is that, even after many warnings, signs and symbols that al Qui'da would attack the USA, and even that they planned to use hijacked airplanes to drive them into buildings, they were ignored...On the watch of George W. Bush.

Adam.

Note that there is no excuse under Gods green earth to kill an innocent person.  Violence begots violence and more injustice.  I can't see calling a victim a villian because of who we support.  You are right.  The way to stop terrorism is to stop injustice.  the question becomes, who has the guts to stop first.

Perhaps the Iowa excersize we just saw is a message to the fearmongers, and those who use fear, hatered and division to govern that Americans, expecially the younger people, are collectively waking up and taking the reigns of the conversation.  It seems Americans want a fundemental change from what is happening now.  I am hopeful, because what happened was not driven by the candidates, or thier sponsers, but a grass root effort, independant.

It is going to be fun watching the political punditry try to spin what happened in Iowa.  I can see it now, Rush Limbaugh blowing a gasket on the air. 

Ohhh Joy !!

Ma 'asalama

AA, You say "there is yet to be a treaty or agreement that has brought peace to this planet prior to a militarily decisive battle that made clear that one side or the other has been victorious."

Would you say the war in Vietnam was decisive? That war was somewhat settled by the The Paris Peace Accords of January 27, 1973, formally recognized the sovereignty of both sides. All wars end with negotiations and treaties, so why not negotiate first, and avoid the war part?

Let me put it in a more personal frame, AA, because you and all cons tend to depersonalize your imagined enemies. That way you don't feel so bad when you kill them in your jingoistic orgies of superpower wars.

Say you and your wife are going through a rough spot in your marriage. Do you try to negoiate and save your marriage, or do you decide that it's time to be the superpower, and declare war on the bitch? (Not that your wife is a bitch, but notice how I depersonalized her by calling her a bitch?) Plus, you prove yourself to be the man you think you are. Unfortunately, in a real marriage, that kind of mentality usually ends up in disaster. So, with your foriegn policy.

AA, I noticed how you depersonalize your boogy man as "rabid Islam." Rabid refers to a mad dog. You are calling them animals. It's easy to kill a mad dog. Huckabee's son did it.

Let's try an experiment, AA, and walk a few steps in your brother's shoes. Let's just say as a hypothetical, that instead of being born an "Average American," you happened to be born as a "Moderate Muslim." Americans starts calling your religion "rabid Islam," declare themselves a superpower, and start stomping around the world starting pre-emptive imperialistic wars and killing your family, friends, and countrymen in order to dominate the middle east for it's oil and convert you to Christianity. Would this make you more of a "Moderate Muslim" or would it radicalize you? Be honest, AA.

Why don't you just be honest, like Michael Weiner ("Savage"), who says that Muslims are all blood-thirsty throw-backs and "we're to kill-em!" Just get ALL the hate out there, and advocate "dropping the big one" on them. Wouldn't it be cool to see those mushroom clouds go up in the desert, turning the sand to glass so we can see the oil underneath? Kill 'em all!!! Yeah! Just ionize all the women's and children's villages, eat dead burnt bodies with blood and guts and veins in your teeth! KILL KILL KILL! That's what superpowers do. That's what you really really want, isn't it, AA? Come out with it, AA, you'll feel better. At least you'll separate yourself from all those weak pansy pinko love and kisses anti-war crybabies like me. In fact, why not kill all us pussies too? Or at least put us in jail? "Would somebody put all those Air America talk show hosts in chains?" - Bill O'

Come on AA, show your true fascist colors, and start beating the drums of ethnic cleansing! Muslims are the new Jews! Let's brand their foreheads with the crescent and load them onto the trains. YEAH! Oh, wait, come to think of it... in one sense you already are. You're just waiting for the "final solution" that will come in the form of a mushroom cloud.

So, who is "rabid?" You call them "Islamo-Fascists," but it takes a fascist to know a fascist. You've projecting, and in doing so lowered yourself down to their level, and the whole world can see it. Congratulations. But are you ashamed? No, because like them, you have no shame, and no intelligence. That has all been replaced by cowardly jingoistic pride. You are a lost little demoniac coward who talks big, but your policies are insidious, and will lead to the destruction of the world.

Bhagavad-gita 9.16

TRANSLATION
"Following such conclusions, the demoniac, who are lost to themselves and who have no intelligence, engage in unbeneficial, horrible works meant to destroy the world."

PURPORT
"The demoniac are engaged in activities that will lead the world to destruction. The Lord states here that they are less intelligent. The materialists, who have no concept of God, think that they are advancing. But, according to Bhagavad-gita, they are unintelligent and devoid of all sense. They try to enjoy this material world to the utmost limit and therefore always engage in inventing something for sense gratification. Such materialistic inventions are considered to be advancement of human civilization, but the result is that people grow more and more violent and more and more cruel, cruel to animals and cruel to other human beings. They have no idea how to behave toward one another. Animal killing is very prominent amongst demoniac people. Such people are considered the enemies of the world because ultimately they will invent or create something which will bring destruction to all. Indirectly, this verse anticipates the invention of nuclear weapons, of which the whole world today is very proud. At any moment war may take place, and these atomic weapons may create havoc. Such things are created solely for the destruction of the world, and this is indicated here. Due to godlessness, such weapons are invented in human society; they are not meant for the peace and prosperity of the world."

But think about it AA, what happened to all the fascists? You should remember the words of Woody Guthrie during WWII.

"I'm going to tell all you fascists, you may be surprised, people all over this world, are getting organized, you're bound to loose, you fascists bound to loose. ALL you fascists bound to loose."

You may be back again in the 21st century, carrying your cross and draped in your AA flag, but you're bound to loose, because we are going defeat you once again in this election, and every time you rear your ugly head in the future. I predict there will be Democratic rule for the next 30 years. The primaries are evidence, with huge voter turnout. There is a tsunami coming, and you don't even realize what's going to hit you.